Ep 4: “Too great of stigma”

Episode 4:

“Too great of stigma”

John, Robert, Ann and Mary Jane Glaeser

Johnny Lamm said in 2018,

“His case is 95% solved. We think a young man from Golden Valley did the shooting. I think Dewey was the lucky one. He didn’t suffer. The other person is still in a wheelchair suffering everyday. 

We miss Dewey a lot and wonder what could have been. He had lots of talent and was easy going.”

You can listen to episode 4 everywhere you get your podcasts or you can listen here:

Around Golden Valley since 1974, people have heard whispers of a boy killing his entire family. An event that wasn’t talked about much after it initially happened.

And some wonder if the boy responsible for the murders was the one responsible for the “Down in the Valley” attack. 

It all began on the morning of December 10th, 1974 when friends earlier in the morning at the Glaeser home repeatedly knocked and called for John’s wife Mary Jane but got no response. 

When Dr. John Glaeser didn’t show up to operate on one of his patients in the Twin Cities. This being extremely unlike him, co-workers feared something was wrong and notified security at the hospital he worked at and contacted law enforcement to do a welfare check.

As an officer approached the Glaeser residence, he could hear the family’s white poodle barking. The officer tries to open the front door but finds it locked. 

The calls, knocking, and the doorbell ringing brought no response. 

He walks around the house and tries looking through the window but finds the drapes are closed. 

He goes to his car and notifies the dispatcher that he was unable to rouse the family. 

More officers arrive on scene and they track someone close to the family named Jackie who had a key to the home who could let them in and Jackie came to help investigate what was going on. 

She arrives at the home, unlocks the front door and lets the officers and herself into the home.

Jackie immediately goes up the front steps right into the master bedroom before screaming, 

“Oh my God! Oh my god!”

Then turned around and bumped into an officer.

The officer peers into the bedroom and sees 50 year old Mary Jane dead in a pool of blood on the floor with the telephone receiver off the hook next to her.

They attempted to get the hysterical Jackie out of the home.

After she was put in a car with an officer, the other officers returned to the bedroom upstairs where they also found 53 year old John Glaeser on the other side of the bed. 

In the bedroom next to theirs they found 17 year old daughter Ann Glaeser in her bed but completely covered with blankets. 

Ann Glaeser yearbook

All bodies had no movement and officers then requested assistance from the detective division and crime lab to come to the home. 

They have a brief conversation with Jackie and she asks if they have found the body of Bobby Glaeser yet.

Stating that Bob Glaeser apparently had some type of psychological problems. She further went on to state that he had a basement bedroom. 

Officers then proceeded to the basement portion of the home and after searching they discovered the body of 19 year old Bobby Glaeser laying on top of a .12 gauge shotgun with most of the top of his head missing. 

The detectives arrive at the home and the investigation into the four deaths of a family begins. 

No one in the neighborhood saw or heard anything out of the ordinary the evening and night of December 9th, 1974. They learn the couple usually retires early because they get up very early in the morning. 

During investigation of the initial scene, the outside light for the house was on. The lights in the master bedroom of the house were off, the lights located within the bedroom where Ann Glaeser’s body was located were on. 

To further note the lights in the bedroom where Robert Glaeser’s body was found was also on. 

All other lights within the house were off.

The master bedroom is referred to as Bedroom 1 in the case file. This is where the bodies of John and Mary Jane were located. Both are found on the floor by the sides of their bed.

Both had two gunshot wounds including head wounds. 

They both were dressed in nightclothes. 

Bedroom 2, next to the master bedroom, was a room of a teenage girl with a multi-colored, flowered quilt on the bed. 

Underneath the quilt and green sheet lies Ann Glaeser.

Detectives pulled the sheet back from her clutched fists and they found two gunshot wounds to her head. 

Ann was clutching the blankets so tightly that physical force had to be used to dislodge the blanket from her hands. 

There were bullet holes through the blankets indicating she was trying to hide underneath the blankets and was shot through the covering. 

Her face was completely unidentifiable. 

She was wearing a pink and white flower nightie. 

All three were shot at close range with a 12 gauge shotgun.

Bedroom 3, the basement of the house, finds Bobby Glaeser with one gunshot wound to his head and a shotgun later identified as a Remington, Model 110, automatic 12 gauge, lying under his body. 

No other markings were on his body other than a bruise on the underside of his left forearm which was probably a result of firing the fatal shot. 

John Glaeser and his friend Richard had gone hunting on Sunday, December 9th. At that time John related to him that he didn’t know what to do with Bob. He was thinking of needing to commit his son. 

Note: It may be speculative but John may have discussed this with Bob on Monday evening, possibly provoking Bob to attack. 

One neighbor states that the vehicle in the driveway was the son’s and that she normally had seen movement at 6 or 6:30 in the morning but this morning there had not been any movement around the house at all. 

Mary Jane brought some type of ornament to hang in a friend’s house and seemed to be in very good spirits stating her shopping was almost done, etc. the day of December 9th. 

Mary Jane also said she hadn’t seen her son Bobby for over one month. 

She had always shown concern for her son and knew that even though he was an adult, she wanted to help. 

Bobby leaves the house for months at a time never telling his parents where he was and then returns and that is when the trouble began.

John Glaeser was advised by the psychiatrist that his son was very dangerous and to remove any guns from the home. He apparently did remove all the shotguns. 

However, John had just been on a hunting trip that day and a rifle was left available in the home. 

Robert got ahold of this shotgun and used it that night. 

In the garage of the home detectives found numerous boxes and cases of shotgun shells.

Pointing out a workbench area with built-in cabinets and drawers. Inside the cabinet to the extreme left or against the West wall, many boxes of shotgun shells were found.  

A box with 10 missing, Remington .12 gauge #4 shotgun shells were confiscated. 

The Detectives when collecting evidence recovered 7 seven sent shotgun casings and took possession of 3 unfired shells removed from Bob Glaeser’s pockets. 

The entire home was searched as well as Robert’s pockets for a suicide note but none was found. 

Also taken into custody was a bluish, green snorkel type parka with orange fur lining found in Bob Glaeser’s bedroom closet. 

A switchblade knife found under his body and a hunting knife in a sheath found in the garage were seized as evidence. 

Robert “Bobby” Glaeser

Who exactly was Bobby Glaeser and what was he up to the final months of his life?

Some described him as a very quiet soft-spoken person, indicating that he would probably be one of the kids that would be most unlikely to succeed.  

Introverted and did pretty well in school. 

Neighbors had a lot to say about most of the family but when it came to Robert, they didn’t know much.

He was living on the University of Minnesota campus but returned to his parents in September. He believed his roommates were plotting to give him a skin disease. 

Robert was convinced he had sores and scabs all over his body and went to several dermatologists who reported nothing was wrong with his skin at all. 

In February when Robert was told he should be committed, he ran out of the doctors office.  

The psychiatrist in September specialized in involuntary treatment. John and Mary Jane Glaeser started proceedings but called them off at the last minute. 

The people in charge of that unit later told authorities the Glaesers made the decision based off of, 

“Would constitute too great a stigma on his future.”

They felt if he decided to go back to school that it would be something that could hold him back. 

Newspapers from the time report that about a week before the family murders, the family was extremely close to involuntarily committing Robert.

He confronted his parents and demanded to know why they wouldn’t look him in his eyes and why they were spying on him. 

He felt everyone around him was plotting against him.

An appointment was made for someone to come to their home and try to take Robert to get help. 

Then Robert moved out and refused to tell his parents where he was and after a few days of not hearing from him – his parents canceled the committal process. 

Supposedly, he returned home last Saturday before their deaths for a Christmas family reunion.

Robert had an apartment the final months of his life on East

Medicine Lake Road, Plymouth. 

The landlady stated that Robert Glaeser had rented this apartment since July of 1974.

She stated that she did not have too much contact with Robert, stated that he was a quiet, reserved type of person, and didn’t talk to too many people in the area to her knowledge. She didn’t know if he had any friends who came to visit him or not. 

She also stated that, about the first of the month, he had given notice that he would be moving out on the 15th of the month. She stated he moved out earlier than the 15th, apparently giving her no reason for doing so. 

Robert was really suffering the final months of his life and today I feel families may feel they are in the same helpless situation. 

“Since February of 1974 including delusions of a somatic nature involving the belief that his roommates had caused him to itch. 

Accordingly, he sought relief from several dermatologists for the imaginary condition of scabies. There were other examples of paranoid thinking which culminated in a challenge by Robert to his parents for spying upon him and his demanding to know why they did not look him directly in the eyes. 

This occurred within a few days prior to the slaying incident which formed the basis for your investigation. We were aware that two psychiatrists had seen Robert and had recommended to the family that he be hospitalized for care and treatment. 

Your question specifically has been directed to whether such a condition could or would have caused Robert Glaeser to kill his parents, his sister and himself in the family home on or about the 10th day of December. I found occasion to discuss these symptoms with various psychiatrists including one of those who had examined Robert earlier and thus have the benefit of their firm collective opinion that Robert Glaeser suffered from an acute state of paranoid schizophrenia as recently as December 4th or 5th according to reported symptoms, and accordingly was very likely operating in a delusional plane of consciousness which could easily, if not predictably, accounted for his apparent homicidal conduct on or about the 10th.”

– Gary W. Flakne

Because of the circumstances of the case, the rule of confidentiality was lifted to receive information from mental health units. 

George Elwell, head of the mental health unit at the time, said doctors on his board of examiners agree that Glaeser exhibited “a classic textbook case of the kind of mental illness that is categorized as paranoid schizophrenia.”

They wanted their son to be hospitalized – they just wanted him to do it voluntarily. 

They refused to do it involuntarily. 

The family were members of the Valley of Peace Lutheran Church in Golden Valley. 

The Glaeser family had three other children, two sisters and a brother, who were all grown and out of the home. 

It was an absolutely devastating and traumatizing event for them. 

John and Mary Jane Glaeser were said to be great parents and deeply cared for all of their children.

Robert liked to tinker with his 1966 Chevrolet. Often his father John would help him. 

John Glaeser was absolutely loved by his coworkers and considered a very good medical man. He had been at this job for 18 years and at one point was the chief of surgery. 

Ann was a senior at Robbinsdale High School. She was said to be a very kind and smart young girl emerging into adulthood. 

It’s an absolutely horrific tragedy that took place that still leaves anyone who remembers the four haunted. 

John, Robert, Ann and Mary Jane Glaeser

Steve Hyland had been haunted by the thought of Robert. He had seen Robert Glaeser shopping at “Down in the Valley” a few times. 

He believed Robert could’ve been responsible for the robbery and murder at the store. 

Next episode we will look into the evidence possibly linking Glaeser family murder with the murder of Dewey Lamm and robbery at “Down in the Valley.”

Rest in Peace to the entire Glaeser family. 

Until next time. 

Ep 1: “Aren’t you dead yet?”

Episode one: 

“Aren’t you dead yet?”

Original “Down in the Valley” record store location in Golden Valley.

Two teenage friends, Dewey and Kevin, travel to “Down in the Valley” record store to purchase some items. 

A gunman robs the store and shoots everyone in it.

The disturbing night of events unfolds.

You can listen to episode 1 everywhere you get your podcasts or you can listen here:

“Down in the Valley” at this time had only been open for about 2 years and was owned by Steve Hyland.

Steve was 21 years old when he opened the store in a basement on 7821 Golden Valley Road in Golden Valley. 

From the outside, it looked like an old shed. Once you enter the front door, you walk down the stairs into the basement to actually enter the store. 

There was no other way in or out of the store. 

You could buy anything from records, cassette tapes and concert tickets to waterbeds and smoking accessories. 

At about 6:30pm on the night of November 16th, 1974, Jennie Randall, a 19 year old girl, was working her shift alone at “Down in the Valley.” Owner Steve Hyland was taking a vacation in Mexico. 

Her friend Coral had been dropped off at the store and was waiting for her ride to get picked up from the store. 

While waiting for her ride, Coral went over to the water bed section in the back of the store to lie down. 

Coral felt like all of a sudden a feeling came over her that someone was watching her. 

She looked up at the window on the east side of the shop which directly overlooks the water bed but she did not see anyone. 

Coral felt uneasy, got up and browsed the store. 

About this time, Jennie asked Coral to watch the store while she ran next door to get a Pepsi. 

While Jennie was gone from the store, only one male customer came in and made a purchase. 

At about 6:55pm, Coral’s ride arrives. Looking over the store dock over the backroom doorway, “Perry Mason” was just ending on the television set Jennie brought with her to work, she said goodbye to her friend.

Her ride was parked in front of M & I Auto Supply, backed out, exited the driveway closest to the record store and went west on Golden Valley Road. 

As they were leaving, a ‘65 Impala pulled into the M & I Auto Supply lot with Dewey Lamm driving and his friend Kevin Finneman was riding along. They both are also 19 years old. 

This night was like any other carefree night for the two buddies. They thought about maybe getting something to eat at McDonalds but decided to spend some time searching through “Down in the Valley” record store. 

It’s now 7 pm and it’s only Dewey, Kevin and lone worker Jennie in the store.

While Jennie watched “All in the Family” on her TV set, Dewey and Kevin were taking their time looking through the records and cassette tapes. 

A male individual about 17 years old wearing a blue parka jacket with the hood portion pulled around his face so that very little of his face was visible, entered the shop. 

This individual browsed through the record selection near the door for approx. 5 minutes before leaving. 

Dewey and Kevin are now looking at the waterbeds and Kevin says something about maybe buying one sometime. 

The individual reentered the store about 2 to 3 minutes later carrying a rifle in one hand and a white towel in the other hand. Carrying this towel as if he’d been swimming. 

Kevin noticed and thought it was strange. 

The individual approached Jennie who was behind the glass showcase counter at the north end of the store and set his rifle and towel onto the counter and stated, 

“Get the money.”

And demanded Jennie open the till to the register. 

Stunned, she opened it and asked, 

“What do you want?”

Dewey and Kevin looked at each other and started laughing – thinking he was pulling a prank on the store clerk. 

The individual turned towards Dewey and Kevin, now holding the rifle at hip level, and began shooting. 

Kevin sees his friend Dewey fall to the floor as he flies back about 10 feet onto the floor with wounds hitting his shoulder and arm. 

Jennie ran to the backroom and tried to use the telephone when the shots first started and the individual shot through the back curtain missing her and started to run towards her. 

She falls to the floor, pretending to be hit. 

Kevin was dazed and got up on his feet and walked a few feet over to where Dewey was lying. 

Kevin could no longer see the individual but could hear him ask the clerk, 

“Is there any more?”

He heard the clerk say, 

“Yes.”

At that point, he heard sounds of them walking in the back room of the store. 

Kevin thinks about rushing him and tries to think of a plan.

The individual came back to Kevin when he realized he was now standing up and pointed the rifle at his head. 

Kevin fell to his knees and begged the individual to not shoot him in his head. 

He fell onto his stomach and was covering his head with his arms. 

The individual moved closer and closer to Kevin and shot him in his spinal cord and stomach, paralyzing him, then went back to Dewey and he again was shot twice. 

 The individual was using a rifle which was loaded through the stock. The individual reloaded his weapon after shooting Dewey then reentered the back room and shot two more times at Jennie. 

The individual asked Jennie, 

“Aren’t you dead yet?”

Then the individual pulled out a machete type instrument. 

Jennie passes out when she sees the machete. 

The individual reentered the display room and grabbed Kevin by his hair, jostled him around some, grabbed his coat collar and moved him some more. 

Kevin was then struck on the head two or three times with the unknown instrument. 

He was trying to act unconscious during this ordeal but he could hear everything. He couldn’t move his body. 

Kevin could hear him walk back towards his friend Dewey and heard sounds of him being struck by this unknown instrument. 

The individual then went towards the back room and struck Jennie two or three times with that same instrument. 

The individual came out of the backroom and exited the shop by walking up the stairs. 

They heard no vehicle sounds after the suspect left the shop. 

Kevin called out to Jennie immediately and told her to call an ambulance.

Jennie said that she had been shot and she didn’t know if she could even move. 

Kevin started to crawl towards the door upon hearing nothing further from Jennie. He could only move very slowly. 

He got about 15 feet away from the phone before he stopped crawling and waited for someone to enter the shop. 

A man and woman walked down the stairs into “Down in the Valley” to purchase some incense but discovered the horrific scene. 

They saw three people lying on the floor and blood all over the place. 

Kevin called out for them to call the police and ambulance to get some help. 

Jennie awakes to someone walking over her to try to use the telephone to call 911 but the phone wouldn’t work. 

Immediately, both parties ran out of the store, one going to the Metro 300 Liquor and one going to Rosie’s Liquor, both making calls for help. 

Panicked, they tell police that someone better hurry and get down to “Down in the Valley” record store. 

Police arrived at a horrific scene. 

Kevin identified himself and said he knew his friend was dead. That some maniac came into the store and started shooting. 

He gave the first initial statements to the police. 

Jennie was conscious and able to speak but was almost to the point of hysteria and kept saying that she was going to die. 

An officer held her hand and tried to calm her. She was not asked any questions at this time. 

When the ambulance arrived, this officer assisted ambulance attendants in carrying her to a stretcher. 

Jennie left first due to the extensive injuries she sustained. 

She had an entrance wound in the middle part of her upper chest and also a bullet wound entering her jaw on the left side and an exit wound on the right jaw. 

Jennie was bleeding profusely from the mouth and wound areas as well as several cuts to her head. 

She kept saying, 

“I can’t talk, I know I’m going to die.”

The officer asked if she could please tell them what happened or who did this. It was at this time that she lapsed into unconsciousness. 

No more conversation is held with Jennie.

Kevin continues to talk to police about what he witnessed until his ambulance arrives.

Once the two injured parties were removed by the ambulance crews, Officer Otto then did search the immediate area around the building and did search the area behind and south of the building to and including the Plaza Shopping Center area. 

The items searched for were a white towel, some type of sharp instrument, possibly a hatchet, and a .22 automatic rifle used by the assailant at the scene of the crime. 

Officer Otto was unable to find anything during the search. This included checking all of the rubbish containers throughout the immediate area of the “Down in the Valley” establishment.  

Police sketch of the crime

Outside officers speak to the two who discovered the scene, John and Paula. 

They both stated implicitly that they had not seen a thing that they had just gone downstairs to the store, walked in, saw three people lying on the floor and blood all over the place. 

Kevin said, 

“Some guy came in and plastered us, call an ambulance.”

Paula said that as curiosity seekers and bystanders began to gather, she noticed a person standing near the N.W. corner of Dahlberg’s building. Paula thought it very strange as many people had gathered out front of the building, but this person remained where he was, watching from that location. When asked if she could describe this person, Paula stated light was not good and she did not pay close attention to this person. 

She did, however, look in his direction several times, noticing the person to still be in the same place, never moving closer to the scene.

John didn’t see any cars or persons in the area before entering the store. 

He also observed the same person standing near the N.W corner of Dahlberg’s building. John could not ascertain clothing worn but feels the trousers and coat worn were of a dark color, possibly dark blue. He did get a better look at the person and is almost positive the person had dark colored hair. 

John stated the hair was very bushy and when questioned as to what he meant, John stated curly or wavy. He also thought this was strange someone would look on from such a distance and not walk up to the scene as other bystanders were doing.

With everyone removed from inside “Down in the Valley” the official search for evidence inside begins. 

Several people leaning on the counter also looked into the cash register and the fact that the phone was handled several times, both by the person that found the people and Officers at the scene, that to research these places and articles for fingerprints would be futile. 

Nothing was left behind by the suspect.

The scene inside pretty much gave up no evidence to help in the investigation. 

 The assailant walked out of the store with $145.68.

 Shortly before officers left the scene inside the store, Steve Hyland’ s father, Duane Hyland, came into the store. They explained to Mr. Hyland what had happened, the money was being seized for safekeeping, and the crime scene sealed for further evidence collection.

 The alarm was set and the building was secured using a key found in the cash register. Signs provided by the crime lab were placed on both front doors. A police department padlock was placed on the door at the head of the stairs. A purse containing identification of Jennie’s and her waist length fur jacket were brought to our office for safekeeping.

A search party outside of the building composed of approximately 8 to 10 fire department personnel in the immediate area of “Down in the Valley” record shop. 

The area of the search was as follows: 

The search team worked in a southerly direction towards and up to Highway 55. Search time then pivoted and directed a search north from Hwy 55 to Country Club Drive. 

The search uncovered only one item which appeared to be alien to the area. This item is described as a brown buckskin colored mitten with wool inserts.  

This item was located from the southeast corner and along the east side of M & I Auto Body Parts. Subsequent search by Fire Department personnel with ladders on the roofs in the immediate area discerned no further evidence.

A search by Fire Department personnel was also conducted in a westerly direction behind the Golden Valley Shopping Center. Search of the shopping center roof – found no evidence. 

They searched for a hatchet or machete type instrument. The north side of Golden Valley Road, the area surrounding the Civic Center, shops, post office, McDonald’s parking lot, all trash cans and any other places where the instrument could have been tossed or hidden.   

The immediate area search was then stopped and discontinued. 

No rifle or machete-like instrument was located. 

The night of November 16th, 1974 is over. 

Dewey Lamm – victim of the robbery

Taken from the Washington Examiner:

“1974 was the year in which some of America’s most notorious and prolific murderers began their reign of bloody terror. Ted Bundy committed his first known murder in January 1974. Dennis Rader (The BTK killer) first murdered in January 1974. John Wayne Gacy killed the second of his 34 victims in January 1974.”

This rise in crime extended outwards towards teenage boys with a lot of shot gun offences throughout Minnesota specifically in 1974.

It’s been more than 50 years since this horrific event and the people close to the crime and victims still wonder who could have possibly committed this crime? 

And why were they never caught?

Through police case files, family interviews and lost footage from throughout the years, I’ll be covering every detail of the investigation from over the past 50 years.

They landed on one specific suspect and in 2009 – they were about 95% sure that this man was the one responsible for the robbery and murder of Dewey. 

But he had been dead himself since 1974.

Police technically “solved” this case and felt confident in closing the investigation from that point. 

Was a teenaged family annihilator in Golden Valley responsible for the brutal robbery and murder at “Down in the Valley” record store?

We will be breaking down the case file of the suspect and try to find what the detectives found:

Some answers and closure. 

Please join the Facebook group “Dewey Lamm’s Cold Case” to stay connected with those closest to the case and stay updated on future news and episodes. 

Coming up:

Episode two of “Down the Stairs, Into the Valley” we will learn about the victim Dewey Lamm and the beginning of the investigation from his friend and survivor Kevin’s side.